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Sorry its 2014.....ha

or pray .

There are still some monasteries that might be open for business.

If Satan exists, I think he must have invented money.
What are your questions granny?

Wrong topic

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Answer please .

Yes indeed I thought that parliament was elected (or unelected in some cases) to represent ALL of the people in the country, that their prime function was to look after the populace, they pay for this representation through the various forms of taxation (and through the nose), however what seems to be happening is they are feathering their own nests with our money, the system we have is archaic, silly men in tights and ruffles banging on the door, drunken old men falling asleep after a big meal and drinky poos, honourable members (now there's a joke)caught with their hands in the till, yet some of them have the gall to stand up and support the use of food banks,and that we ALL must suffer because "were all in this together" all this whilst waiting to enter the house of lords, more big meals, drinky poos, bo bo's plus £300 rips, we must be mad.

Casper i think your spot on,

I do think that the conservatives will defo be out in 2015, they've destroyed the uk as much as they can in four years and the nation are going to remember it.
DONT WASTE YOUR VOTE AND NOT VOTE
its one very small power you have
milliband is a joke, like a idiot at school who gets bullied
I hate Cameron cause of his pan faced stating of the obvious all the time...
farage is like able but hes only ever banging on one drum....immigration
The great thing about MPS is they always make big mistakes in public, get found out big time....
that we can rely on.....and the conservatives are leading with this big time.....WHO WILL I VOTE FOR???? REALLY DONT KNOW...

Well we don't have many options, we must use our right to vote, it was hard won, who to vote for? well that's the dilemma as you say not much of a choice, should it be the best of a bad bunch? the same old? all I can say at this moment in time is who I won't vote for and that is the party that has no empathy at all with the majority of people in this country, the party of self interest, the party of no compassion.

The danger is of a coalition between UKIP and the Cons, which will lurch the politics in this country to the far right, uniting the bigots of both parties, and that would be a very sad time for our country.

if you watch the doc "the corporation" you'll see they compare corps to psychopaths in methodology .
try this, write down in a list form what you hate about MPS and do another list for CRIMINALS .
you'll find many similarities...
it'll contain things like;
no apparent consequences for their actions
taxpayer picks up the bill
don't care about wasting £, its not theres
don't seem to have to live by normal society rules
don't really care but portray that they do to get what they want
if they cause chaos , they walk away
seem to be well connected to every other ... bag around and close ranks on investigation.....etc etc

MPS= CRIMINALS ha ha

There are a very few genuine MPs, I suspect treated with suspicion by the piglets, but the analogy you have given are indeed in common with the actions nay inactions of the majority, the whole system is indeed ready for a long overdue overhaul, lets cut the pomp and circumstance, the corruption, the deadwood, the do you know who I am old boys, shut the bars (after all are we allowed to drink during working hours) the jobs for the boys and girls nepotism, what about annual appraisals on individual performance, results published, that's just for starters.

As we head deeper and deeper into global confussion, we seem to be watching an ever increasing mountain of world issues which affect more and more of us, and seem to have no reslove. Drought, floods, wars,governments being overthrown, general unrest, unemployment, failed crops, threatened species of insects, animals and birds. Nuclear disasters, earthquakes, melting ice caps, climate change.
Governments that seem not to have any expertise in fundamental principles.
Lack of trust, spying on us, child slavery and abuse, illegal immigrants, terrorism, mass murder, and human trafficking. Poverty, starvation, homelessness, cruelty, drug trafficking, overcrowded prisons and so much more.

How many of the above apply to our own country ? Will we even have a country in the next 50 yrs. I think not. Just Europe with no national identity, that's how I see it, and having been pre-destined from long ago, with a President of Europe who could even be Ukranian. Could we be a communist Europe by then or a dictatorship ? For certain there will be no referendum on this for us in 2017, just bluff and more bluff.

The continuous list never seems to be resolved and continues to grow. It feels as if we are being suffocated and the elected world leaders seem to show some concern and then move onto the next item.

Nothing is being done and the boundaries are being moved out of their grasp. Is it really as bad as it seems or are we being fed too much information and life hasn't changed so much? Maybe more than our brains can adapt to, or deal with.

Ridicuously high salaries and Charities e.g. Save the Children always needing to accumulate more money, but do we see the results of the millions they must receive?

An expected increase in world population to 9 billion in the next 20 years. Is there a plan of action? How will we all be fed and housed ? One wonders if we will be controlled in some way or another but it would have to be on a global platform. Maybe we will be given a maximum life span to avoid pension payouts !

Everyone seems to be on the same wavelength about having to prepare but none seem to be acting or worse, either not knowing what to do or pushing everything under the carpet ready to jump up at a later date.

What on earth are we heading towards? I just feel that the inadequate leaders who are far too young and inexperienced to be in office when they take the crowns, have not a clue.

Why in Mrs Merkel in such a position that we seem to be reliant upon her ? Who voted her in a spokeswoman for Europe ?

It is with great concern that I see national pride sinking into the Irish Sea and wonder what wonderful times we can expect from the next government to take up residence in Westminster.

Not one of those who sit on the back benches, front benches or in between the benches nor any at Prime Ministers 'question time' are capable, (actually, there is just one who I would put my trust in but not a PM) and for any other one of them making big decissions on the world stage, quite frankly, in this day and age, scares the pants off me. Everyone of them an 'overgrown school boy' or a 'proper pushy little madam'

What is to be done?

Once upon a time.......

before the internet, we largely lived in contented ignorance.

All sorts of stuff has always been going on for hundreds of years.

We are but little tiny cogs in an unimaginable machine.

The love of family and an ice-cream in the sunshine are things to treasure.

With the European Elections showing the anti -Euro and anti- establishment votes right across the European union , it is to wonder if it is good or bad.

Understanding the voting system to make up the European Parliament is a nightmare (for me,at least) and despite the overall anti euro votes, the EPP (European People's Party )still has the majority MEP's and therefore it would seem that there will be no change.

Mrs Merkel's party remains in the same position as part of the EPP Group which comprising of politicians from Christian Democrats and Conservative orientation.

France as we know has FN receiving 25% of the votes which in itself is worrying due to the rise of anti-semitism, once again, moving across Europe, particularly France, over the last few years.

This promise of a referendum for a YES-NO vote as to whether Britain should stay in Europe is not likely to happen, no matter what. (in my opinion)

If France and Britain should leave the European Union, what happens then? All the smaller, poorer countries that have joined into Europe from communist regimes, will basically be left in 'no mans land', and who would be at the helm ? Germany of course, which is what they wanted not so very long ago.

Head of Europe by default and entering through the back door !

Alternatively, Russia could creep back into the closets undetected, until too late.

All very worrying so far as I can see, and yet how else can the voters make their objections be felt and acted upon. other than voting for the party who can maybe make the changes they want. Does all this mean that the European Union and the methods used to set it up and administer proceedures etc (if you understand what I mean) will never be able to achieve changes as it is so tightly sewn up?

If countires can't agree on any policies or changes , or who should be voted in, then what is to stop them having a European President (which they do already and a new on coming up is former Luxembourg Prime Minister Jean-Claude Juncker, which Cameron is not in agreement with, but Merkel is.) who is in overall control of all countries in the Union and therefore, democracy as we have known it, has been cleverly eroded and snatched away from all of us.


Note on Juncker: In July 2013, Juncker's coalition government was brought down by a scandal involving the country's intelligence agency.[2] As a result, a snap election was held in October in which Juncker sought a fifth term.[3][4] While his party won a plurality of seats, the opposition formed a majority coalition, and Juncker left office on 4 December 2013.

and

Jean-Claude Juncker, the former Luxembourg prime minister who headed the ticket for Europe’s centre-right Christian Democrats in last week’s EU elections, staked his claim on the EU’s most high-profile job on Sunday night, saying he alone had the right to be the next president of the European Commission

I wonder if there will be extremely rapid changes made, before any further anti Europe feelings can cause disruption amongst the 'powers that be' in the European Parliament.



Any opinions ?

This has come to light again due to the controversy over who the new European President will be. Apparently Blair might be lurking in the background.

Year : 2008 .

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Whilst Gaza had it's worst night of fighting last Friday, the Middle East Peace envoy was otherwise busy:

Peace envoy Tony Blair's role is to hammer out ceasefire in times of conflict
But he spent most of last week in UK before hosting lavish party for Cherie
He held surprise 60th birthday party at £6m mansion in Buckinghamshire
Invited 150 of the couple's closes friends, including ministers and TV stars
Hired Strictly Come Dancing's Ian Waite and Kristina Rihanoff to perform
Also hired comedian Bobby Davro to entertain guests at the £50,000 party

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/ban-ki-moon-sack-tony-blair-as-the-middle-east-peace-envoy