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granny #908877 6th Nov 2014 9:10pm
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Yes, it does Pinz withthat

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Who knew this ?

Why Did The Media Keep The Recent Peaceful Icelandic Revolution Quiet?

....and this

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2008/oct/10/banking-iceland

U.K. Councils Investment

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2008/oct/10/localgovernment-iceland

I believe Wirral were reimbursed last year OUR £2 million, but not 100% sure. Probably no interest included !
Who advises these numpties anyway? What a flock of bird brains we have.


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Sorry, forgot the first link .

Icelandic Revolution 2008 -2013

http://www.collective-evolution.com...ent-peaceful-icelandic-revolution-quiet/


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I knew about it but only because of the groups/ people I circulate with. Being an RT viewer helps too....

That's the trouble with the mainstream and national media. Its nowt fresh re- lack of reporting anything that rocks the boat, so to speak. I reckon you must know this already though, surely??

#notoausterity #oct18 (100000 people marching through central London-road closures etc)

#mmm- they focused on the 10 arrests- that were probably Black Bloc infiltrators.




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As RT is a Russian propaganda outlet, no I do not view it, and do realise that our own media do edit . The collapse of the banks was widely known but the facts of this revolution and continuation for five years has been hardly muttered about and is quite a surprise.
Maybe the Financial Times would have chronicled it, but I don't read that either.


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Originally Posted by granny
has been hardly muttered about and is quite a surprise.
Maybe the Financial Times would have chronicled it, but I don't read that either.
Oh well, welcome to Catch-Up

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Jeremy Corbyn ??? Yes ? No ?


Would be like going back 30/40 years in time, with Derek Hatton waving his ratchet.

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Well we have gone back to Thatcherism except ten times worse at the moment.

The government is dodging its responsibilities and passing the problems onto the electorate.

We need a balanced socialist party, whether they win an election or not is down the electorate but there should be a socialist party to vote for. At the moment it is right wing labour or extreme right wing tory.

Hatton was never in national politics but like him or not, he at last got Liverpool some post-war money whereas the government had just tried to get rid of Liverpool and hoped that if they starved it of money it would eventually fade away.

I didn't like Hatton but somebody need to stand up to the government and he basically won.


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Last night Derek Hatton claimed that he has successfully rejoined the Labour Party 29 years after they expelled him. Hatton — who joined Labour with the Trotskyist group Militant — boasted about his membership on Newsnight while defending Jeremy Corbyn. ‘In my pocket I’ve got a Labour Party card,’ he said, after tweeting a picture of his card earlier this year:


Did you live in Liverpool DD ? He is a former politician and the man is still a menace and a nutcase.
The following article just about says it all, apart from hair brained schemes that he thought up. I can't believe you think he did anything good DD !

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/mike-storey-debt-left-militant-3572497


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Liverpool would have lost its city status by now if Thatcher had her way - she was trying to close Liverpool down by making it a ghost town.

Hatton fought her, she backed down. It might have been the only major good thing he did - but it was a big one!

Labour have blocked his membership again, the cards are sent out automatically but it has been voided.

Dissecting the article you linked.

Liverpool had a £157 million loan - that is chicken feed for a city the size of Liverpool, Wirral Council has loans greater than that.

3.8% interest rate was brilliant for 1986.

Liverpool never got the reconstruction money post WW2 that other areas of the country got, I remember the amount of bomb sites that were still virtually untouched still in the 1970's. Hatton started the rebuilding programme off without government assistance - actually in direct opposition of the government.

I spent about half my life in Liverpool in the 1980's, I saw the slums starting to disappear, those slums were far worse than anything we had on the Wirral. There were numerous flaws in the building programme but the council were getting fought every step of the way by the government and so could hardly be focussed.

As I said above, I'm not a great fan of Hatton and have openly slagged him off in the past but some of his achievements were commendable when you remove the government spin.



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You must be a lot older than I thought DD. Sorry.

Saying that, Thatcher was advised by the treasury to abandon Liverpool after the Toxteth riots. It was Hesletine who persuaded her to visit the area and he did too, for three weeks, whist he tried to get to the bottom of the needs of the city. From there, the Liverpool Garden Festival brought masses to the city. The Albert dock was developed as a main tourist attraction, the Tate was brought to Liverpool. as just a few examples. Scotland Road slums were rebuilt before the 1980's and most people were taken to Skelmersdale new town. They had to have somewhere to take people before they could start demolition work. So build a new town first and then get on with the next project. These rebuilding programmes can't happen overnight. The new Kingsway tunnel was in progress from late 1960's . War damage was immense and clearing the sites was a task and a half all over the city for years. It kept people in work. The whole country was clearing slums and bomb damage, everywhere wanted money and still they haven't cleared Edge Lane or Smithdown Road area !!! Blame Thatcher for that too hey ? Waterfront looks nice tho'.

Liverpool were given £100m from Thatcher Government,(how much is that now? when wages were about £8.00 per week or less and rent was 7/6d (35p.weekly) Hatton was only the Deputy Leader, but managed to put the Leader in the wings whilst he took over and ran the show. He was corrupt and manipulative and he lead Liverpool into the biggest hole. I think you will find that just every tabloid, newspaper, official, labour party member, politician local government representatives and many more could/can see who and what he was. He did absolutely nothing for Liverpool , and it is the younger people of today that seem to sing his praises, mainly because the same people batter Thatcher's Government but those same people can remember neither, they just spout 'here say' that they have been drip fed and brainwashed with. Ask his school friends what he was like.

Warren Bradley was another and strangely enough they both had connections to the Fire Service. Bradley also had connections to others, who shall be nameless. Not what you know but who you know to get to high places. He fell too !

Sorry to say, but Hatton did NOTHING for the people of Liverpool. What he may have given with one hand he succeeded in taking back with the other 10,whilst swanning around in his chauffer driver black Merc.

Jeremy Corbyn is another, with a quieter approach but back in the 70's of wanting to re-nationalise everything (the railways for goodness sake !) If he succeeds ,I can see the Labour Party disbanding as it is now, and going in the direction similar to when Liberal's joined up to make the Liberal Democrat Party.. So we may end up with middle of the road, Liberal Labour Party, and that I can think would probably be the electorates preferred choice.


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Originally Posted by granny
Last night Derek Hatton claimed that he has successfully rejoined the Labour Party 29 years after they expelled him. Hatton — who joined Labour with the Trotskyist group Militant — boasted about his membership on Newsnight while defending Jeremy Corbyn. ‘In my pocket I’ve got a Labour Party card,’ he said, after tweeting a picture of his card earlier this year:



This article I linked...I viewed his stating on Newsnight. So if his membership had been refused, he knew about it and therefore proves him to still be a liar, deceiver and spin merchant.

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Thatchers' funeral protest, Liverpool. What a joke! How many of them were born in 1980's and if they were, they would have been with nappies and dummies, so they remember nothing but think they should be listened to and heard. Ha bloody ha ! A right rough bunch of trouble makers, if you ask me.

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Anfield , Liverpool.

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...and so it goes on. Now why, oh why over all the years has nobody actually done anything ? The regeneration money was for the whole city. Capitol of Culture, my arse! Let's blame Cameron now .
Yes, the steam is coming forth from my nostrils, ears and every orifice right now.

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Because the silly Tory government believes in demolish and build, which gives the most profit for their buddies and the most damage to the environment.

Grants are rarely available for extensive refurbishment but comes in huge piles for redevelopment.

Whole streets are almost always bordered up when there are plans to demolish. There are similar in every town in the whole country, Birkenhead has more than its fair share.


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