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745 Stanley Arms 76 Borough Road/once Victoria Road Seacombe

Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
Pic of The Stanley Pub in Seacombe (could not find it in Index) Nicked this one from Facebook. Degs, I have various pub related clippings from local papers, care of Grandad to upload too.

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Originally Posted by Norton
At the bottom of Borough Rd, on the north side, by its junction with Brighton St. Tunnel vent in the background.
The building with the rounded frontage was a bank that became a pub/club named 'Le Banque' (not to be confused with Stanleys 'Old Bank' at the top of Tobin Street).
I think 'The Stanley' is hiding in the shadows of the photo, behind the car, perhaps?.
From old maps, I reckon that it was 25 yards to the east from the end of the Stanley St/Borough Rd (aka Victoria Rd) junction.

Good find though. Needs adding to the pubs index.

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Originally Posted by Dilly
I think it is the building just off shot to the left.

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Originally Posted by Norton
Dilly, I think I would agree with you. Right now I've been looking for the old map from where I originally derived its location, being 76 Borough Rd (nee Victoria Rd) Seacombe. This shows a little 'PH' in a square in the corner of the 'hotel'.

Rather strangely, I think the Stanley Pub was in the corner of the Stanley Arms Hotel building. They are recorded seperately on the 1871 cencus, and the first time I have a street number recorded for them is 1902. They had different heads of household or licencee recorded for each premise at the same time. They had different drinks licences, one as a hotel and one as a pub. It was some time later that they became one and the same. Or it could be due to discrepencies in the trade directories...

.... Stanley Pub ------ Stanley Arms Hotel
1857 T O'Dell
1871 Joseph Martin ---- Hugh Williams
1883 George Hallgarth
1902 -------------------- John J Linton
1910 -------------------- Robert Leeman

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Originally Posted by zigzagwanderer
The Stanley c1904 , highlighted in yellow in the lower photo . The green outlines the Irving Theatre .


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Originally Posted by zigzagwanderer
Finally closed around 1986 .


Originally Posted by Dilly
From what I can remember it had a more modern frontage than the rest of the buildings in the block. I would have thought it closed a fair bit earlier than 86, possibly in the seventies.

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Originally Posted by derekdwc
sonylegs
1949 street diectory
Please could you tell me where you got it from,as I would like to get later ones than what I have
bought on cd?
copied from a library street directory (by camera or photocopied?
online?
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Originally Posted by bert1
Originally Posted by Dilly
From what I can remember it had a more modern frontage than the rest of the buildings in the block. I would have thought it closed a fair bit earlier than 86, possibly in the seventies.


Its in the 1976 phone book, see below.

Its not in the 1984.


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Originally Posted by sonylegs
Originally Posted by Norton
Dilly, I think I would agree with you. Right now I've been looking for the old map from where I originally derived its location, being 76 Borough Rd (nee Victoria Rd) Seacombe. This shows a little 'PH' in a square in the corner of the 'hotel'.

Rather strangely, I think the Stanley Pub was in the corner of the Stanley Arms Hotel building. They are recorded seperately on the 1871 cencus, and the first time I have a street number recorded for them is 1902. They had different heads of household or licencee recorded for each premise at the same time. They had different drinks licences, one as a hotel and one as a pub. It was some time later that they became one and the same. Or it could be due to discrepencies in the trade directories...

.... Stanley Pub ------ Stanley Arms Hotel
1857 T O'Dell
1871 Joseph Martin ---- Hugh Williams
1883 George Hallgarth
1902 -------------------- John J Linton
1910 -------------------- Robert Leeman

Mr. Maurice Thomas was the manager of the Joint City and Midland Bank. Mr. John Greenwell became manager in the 1930s. Among the other businesses in this part of the road were the fish and chip shop run by Archie Chippendale, Arthur White the stationer and Joe Scott, the butcher. Bob Leenam was landlord of the 'Stanley Arms' hotel and in the 1920s Reg Prichard took over, followed by Jim Horsley. The hotel once had a balcony and next door was 'Belle Vue', with steps leading up to the front door. The hotel once boasted a bowling green.

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After looking at some maps 1915 and 1950s
I'm still trying to get my head around the 1st pic of post as being the Stanley Arms 76 Borough Road
Anyone know the name of the PH at top of 1915 map by Tabor st
Shame my numbered 1950s stops short

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My cousin Harry Gilmore and wife Grace managed the Stanley from late 60's to closure sometime in the late 80's - Harry died about 2000

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Originally Posted by derekdwc
Originally Posted by zigzagwanderer
Finally closed around 1986 .


Originally Posted by Dilly
From what I can remember it had a more modern frontage than the rest of the buildings in the block. I would have thought it closed a fair bit earlier than 86, possibly in the seventies.
I, too think it closed in 1986. My dad has a photo of himself, partner and land-lord taken on the night it closed. I'm sure the date on the back is 1986.

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Originally Posted by zigzagwanderer
Finally closed around 1986 .


Originally Posted by Dilly
From what I can remember it had a more modern frontage than the rest of the buildings in the block. I would have thought it closed a fair bit earlier than 86, possibly in the seventies.
I, too think it closed in 1986. My dad has a photo of himself, partner and land-lord taken on the night it closed. I'm sure the date on the back is 1986.
My mistake- just ranh him- he said 1981.

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