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Originally Posted by granny
George Galloway's party would have us fighting in the allies.


???

Although he's not a pacifist, he is mostly is against us sending troops into anybody else's war.


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George Galloway's party would have us fighting in the allies.


???


He'd have us fighting each other is what I meant.


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He'd certainly support an uprising against the politicians that run this country (and some that don't) apart from that I've never heard him suggest or incite any civil violence in this country, many believe him to be a pacifist although he is not.

Its only in the last year that I have been following him as I had a totally incorrect impression of him. The Respect Party manifesto is almost flawless in my opinion and Galloway isn't one for hidden agendas, if he believes in something he lets you know.

I certainly feel our country would be a lot safer and secure in his hands than any other politician.


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Agreed he does speak his mind and is probably the most 'head on' politician there is, but as his party is split over certain issues and he is out to gain the 'Muslim ' vote, in the present climate, he is obviously not a good choice for the country. What are to be his policies ? Just from my point of view, there could be huge repercussions.
Plus, diplomacy is not in his dictionary and that I feel is a vital ingredient for any political leader.


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George Galloway's party would have us fighting in the allies.


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He'd have us fighting each other is what I meant.
That is prevalent now. Unpaid/ underpaid/ under employed/ private sector/ public sector/ disabled/ fat/ ethnic minority/ old/ young.....blah blah. Oh well, as long as the majority fight each other- it diverts attention away from the Evil in Westminster.


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Slightly different Rude. To gain Muslim votes, there have to be changes, which most of us would not be prepared to accept. To gain the votes, there would have to be support for them and their beliefs. Hence, Respect is suspected, given the chance, of changing certain social issues which we have become used to as part of our society and social fabric, for the purpose to accommodate others .
I wouldn't prepared to take that chance!

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Agreed he does speak his mind and is probably the most 'head on' politician there is, but as his party is split over certain issues and he is out to gain the 'Muslim ' vote, in the present climate, he is obviously not a good choice for the country. What are to be his policies ? Just from my point of view, there could be huge repercussions.
Plus, diplomacy is not in his dictionary and that I feel is a vital ingredient for any political leader.


The Respect Party is stable now, the divisions have been and gone. It is an exceedingly small party though.

As we have probably thrown more money into Muslim issues than any other foreign issue, wouldn't you expect a political party to be discussing Muslim issues and coming up with firm policy. Respect aren't proposing mass immigration or blowing any Muslim territories to pieces which makes sense, its hardly anything to do do with getting the Muslim vote.

He is firmly against Israel's invasion of Palestine which even the American's are realising is wrong. That Palestine is Muslim and that Israel is Jewish definitely does not come into the equation, its the invasion of one country by another when the invading country has been given wrongful support in the past and also was the mess the west left behind many years ago in some unspoken agreements behind closed doors.

It makes a change from politicians who extol the virtues of courses of action without mentioning the "oil" word when that is all that's on their mind.


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DD, Apart from World issues which he would be unable to navigate the social issues are the key factor and his history of behaviour and antagonistic approaches firmly put him pig in the middle for causing trouble between different minority groups in this country. e.g. Muslim and Jews. He has too many anti-Semitic members, and accusations against him include getting rid of some women's rights, abortion, gay rights and fighting homophobia to attract Muslim support.
That is a recipe for disaster.
You support his party if you wish, but it is definitely not for me.


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You've been reading the wrong scaremongering newspapers (or their influence on Wikipedia etc wink

The Respect Party's motto is "Peace, Justice & Equality" which would hardly fit in with those claims. Here is their policy on equal rights .....

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Respect will always stand in defence of the marginalised and those who suffer from prejudice and discrimination. Our party is founded on the idea that people are equal, regardless of their faith, ethnicity, background, gender, sexuality, social class or any other characteristic.

Islamophobia is the last ‘acceptable’ form of racism in Britain and is a critical danger to our communities. We stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Muslims who oppose this, who stand for equality, respect between religious groups and peace & community cohesion.

Respect has a proud history of moving people from every different background behind our cause. People of all faiths and none, young and old, men and women; their one common characteristic is a belief in peace, equality and justice.


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Seriously, have a look at their policies, listen to Galloway's stuff on youtube then try and find anything wrong, its not just Galloway spouting meaningless words like most politicians, his arguments are reasoned and true. I think we have forgotten what a politician is in this country, it is someone with moral belief and conviction, even if it loses them the vote - not u-turn lying cotton-worded creeps like we are getting used to.

As I said, I disagree with Respects stance on Europe but I can't see anything else wrong - that is a thousand times better score than I can give any other party.


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The trouble is , I don't believe a word he says. He so often has supposedly made inciting statements, and then like a naughty school boy , wriggles off the naughty step.
He's a liar and a trouble maker which hasn't changed, and neither has my mind. I don't trust him and it's a different distrust to other politicians, we know none of them are trustworthy. This one is different and in my opinion he is a dirty little trickster and worse that Farage.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/16/george-galloway-israel-free-speech-no-charges

George Galloway will not face charges over a speech he made in August declaring Bradford an “Israel-free zone”.

The Respect MP for Bradford West was interviewed by police under caution over claims that his statements in Leeds had incited racial hatred.


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raftl ....and he's got 4 wives, married to the 4th, four months after his second child was born to his third wife. Apparently not divorced. That's bigamy.


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He's often been misquoted, I've lost count of how many apologies he's had off the BBC or their staff and he's won numerous court cases for slander/libel against various organisations.

I've seen loads of rubbish reported about him and never found any of it true.

The Israel free zone thing is identical to sanctions that we as a country have against numerous other countries - so its ok for a government to do this but nobody else? At least his sanctions were for just reasons and not based on lies, misrepresentations and personal greed. He of course wasn't prosecuted because he had done nothing wrong - believe me, there is nothing the government would like rather than jail him - he is exposing their lies and mistakes, predicting outcomes accurately and exposing corruption.

There is an obvious campaign against him, he's been the subject in courts, investigations and enquiries loads of times and not been prosecuted. Even when he proved the Americans were wrong and made total fools of them, their final retaliation was to report he was lying BUT they never prosecuted him for perjury because they knew they couldn't.

Its so easy for the media to manipulate, its so easy for governments to get away with things. The amount of money that has been wasted trying to prosecute or discredit Galloway by various governments and the media is unbelievable and is a testament that he must be telling the truth or someone would have succeeded by now - its been going on for years.

If anybody but him had been physically assaulted for political reasons as severely as he was, the government and other politicians would be up in arms about it but there was a deadly silence instead - they hate his guts and it makes a mockery out of their beliefs in the freedom of political thought - they are the hypocritical liars, he isn't.


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raftl ....and he's got 4 wives, married to the 4th, four months after his second child was born to his third wife. Apparently not divorced. That's bigamy.


Even cleverer than that, he has had five weddings and may of only had two divorces.

I will admit that having more than one wife is a serious error of judgement. One wife is more than enough punishment for one man no

But of course, he has not been done for bigamy because as usual its just hype, what he has done is perfectly legal in UK law and the other relevant countries.


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He does do a pretty mean impression of a cat drinking milk out of Rula Lenskas hands.....I don!t think he's the man I would trust to run the country, not for his dubious non-political activities but because I just don't trust most of what he says though I did applaud his stance on Iraq at the time.

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