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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper


Frank Field: Because Assad doesn't train terrorists to go abroad but ISIS do.

Angela Eagle: To defend national interests and UN told us to.

Alison McGovern: Better than inaction.

Not one mention of what they think/hope the air-strikes/bombing will achieve.


This wouldn't have any bearing on it, would it ???

http://www.lfi.org.uk/wp-content/up...gressive-case-for-israel-an-lfi-book.pdf

http://www.lfi.org.uk/news/

https://cfoi.co.uk/

I think we are all being led up the garden path by each and every one of them, and positioning ourselves. Israel want Assad out. Israel wanted Saddam out. To have registered support for political groups within our own political parties , in a way of opposition to different nations and religious cultures, is raising the chance for all out war. It should NOT be allowed. How would it work if there was a Support Group for Syria or Libya, to which MP's signed their name ? (maybe there is). We are too multi everything in this country now, too late to turn the clocks back, thanks to the likes of Liberty.

Note, Netanyahu asked Prince Charles to visit Israel ,last week. The invitation has been declined as it is not viewed as helpful in the continued disputes between Israel and Palestine, with opinions being voiced that Netanyahu would use the visit as a political lever of showing support to their cause. No Royal has ever visited Israel in an official capacity.

Below is the latest rhetoric to start from that Zionist. If he's not going to have a bi-national state solution, then why is The Labour Friends of Israel, working towards a two state solution i.e their Motto ? ;

Israel will not become a bi-national state, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared at Sunday's cabinet meeting, in a response to US Secretary of State John Kerry who in a speech on Saturday said the trend lines were leading in that direction.

“I want to make clear, Israel will not be a bi-national state, but in order for there to be peace, the other side also has to decide it wants peace. Unfortunately that is not what we see,” he said.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Po...srael-wont-be-a-bi-national-state-436432

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This is also an interesting article from the Times of Israel.

How there is concern when support for Israel is not paramount in our political parties and many other factors too. Do we have such influence in their political parties ?

http://www.timesofisrael.com/is-there-a-place-for-jews-in-a-corbyn-led-labour-party/


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I think your right granny, our two main political parties are fragmented within their own ranks, not only Labour were some of their front benchers voted for bombings and now seem to be taking that further by condemning the anti bombing campaign I think this is purely political and is more to do with embarrasing Corbyn than anything else, the Tories keep saying eventually there must be boots on the ground, as against we will not put them there, the retoric is changing, slowly but surely we are creeping toward full involvement, no doubt this has been talked about with our "allies" and Dave will appear with his best car salesmans war face to tell us the inevitable deployment of ground troops is the only way, I think if there is another terrorist action here that will be the excuse needed for full committment, I hope I am wrong.

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At the moment I don't believe much that's written or spoken by the media - they are stirring things up at a new level. Try to take note of official statements or interviews and even then make sure they are current and not raked up from the past and hence out of context.



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We can only hope that Donald Trump never gets past the first post. He said (on the 6th Dec.) that he will go after the wives of the terrorists because they know what's happening ! raftl

What is it that this man does not understand ? Probably not worth thinking about really.

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Bernie Sanders seems a good chappie - straight talking, tackling many issues that are relevant to the UK as well.


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Its gone quiet on the terrorist front now news wise, its been overidden with the flooding in the lake district, it just shows how much power the media have to influence local and world affairs, as simple as a headline.

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Originally Posted by casper
Its gone quiet on the terrorist front now news wise, its been overidden with the flooding in the lake district, it just shows how much power the media have to influence local and world affairs, as simple as a headline.
withthat Sheeples, everywhere../...baaa baah baah

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Just had to be , didn't it ? Israel have bombed Damascus killing Samir Qantar . They have not accepted responsibility yet, but have tried to kill him 6 times already. Lebanon have said " Israel will pay the price of it's crime" .
Yet again, they will trigger a situation that gets the West onto their side in a greater than the already bad situation. Crafty ...very crafty. They will never stop. Notice how they always seem make an impact and challenge when news on all other fronts seems to go quieter. Been the same for years. Maybe I'm just sick of them and their leader, but that is how it looks. (May I add, that this is not aimed at any of Jewish faith, just the politics of the country).


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Afghanistan is kicking off again as well.


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The government have given the ok for women to be allowed to carry out combat roles, they say that it is to fall into line with our allies, but being cynical I think that recruiting has dropped below requirements and they need to bolster numbers on the front line, other than that its a bad idea, I have no doubts about womens capability will and bravery to do the role, but in practice and for many reasons it wont work.

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As an ex WRAC i agree Casper,

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No doubt they will make a big deal of the first women (shades of GI Jane)and how successful it has all been, you will understand the difficulties more than most Madge, I remember well the derogatory nick names they had, splits, groundsheets amongst the more polite, and I dont think that culture will ever change.

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Quite a few other countries have female combatants including:-

Canada
Germany
Ireland
Israel
New Zealand
Norway
Russia
Sweden
Turkey
USA



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No doubt they will make a big deal of the first women (shades of GI Jane)and how successful it has all been, you will understand the difficulties more than most Madge, I remember well the derogatory nick names they had, splits, groundsheets amongst the more polite, and I dont think that culture will ever change.

I served in the 80`s and never had any of that levelled at me, maybe cos im 5`11 and i would have put them on their arse if they had, lol, or maybe i just didnt mix with those types, i do know there was people like that but like in life there always is,

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