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You are quite right granny not a lot of impact indeed, so now people are being encouraged to mingle a little bit more, not to continue to stay at home, but to stay alert, control the virus and save lives, the lines are becoming increasingly blurred through lack of clarity, as for the return to work I don't recall the words if possible, but I do remember him very clearly saying " that from Monday people should be actively encouraged to return to work in certain industries" this was then changed to Wednesday the following day, giving employers little time to prepare for a safe working environment, the wearing of masks, we were told that masks offer no protection! now the advice is changing, Boris did say because of our actions we have avoided a catastrophe, really over 32,00 dead and still rising the highest in Europe, although Dominic Raab denied this saying that this is pure speculation, what was that saying arse and elbow?

Have you seen France's lifting of certain restrictions ? As from today they have got zones. Colour coded zones.

Have a read through this, far too confusing :

FRANCE

The red zone will comprise four regions making up the northeast of France (including Paris and its suburbs), as well as the Indian Ocean territory of Mayotte. Altogether, 32 of France’s 101 départements – home to 27 million people – will remain in the red.

For now, though, the government has imposed few additional restrictions on red areas, preferring to leave specifics to local authorities. For the week of May 11, parks and gardens are the only public places that will reopen in green zones but not red, unless otherwise specified by mayors or prefects. Travel between the two zones is allowed, as long as it respects the 100-kilometre limit. And primary schools in both zones will gradually begin to reopen, at local authorities’ discretion.

The gap between the two zones will widen on May 18, when middle schools in the green zone should begin to reopen, while those in the red won’t. At the beginning of June, the difference between the two zones is expected to grow further. At that point, Philippe said, high schools, bars, and restaurants in the green zone may be able to reopen, but not in départements still marked as red.

Schools are one of the biggest flash points in the government’s reopening plans. Education Minister Jean-Michel Blanquer has affirmed that 80 to 85 percent of primary schools will reopen as soon as Tuesday, May 12, with roughly 1 million children set to return to school. This will mark the first step toward a full reopening of the education system
More here :
https://www.france24.com/en/20200509-france-prepares-to-ease-covid-19-lockdown-what-you-need-to-know

Take into consideration that France had more deaths than UK in the last 24hrs. Has done less tests than UK has and less tests per million population.

The vunerable self isolate for 12 weeks but what happens on week 13? They have stayed indoors but now go out , perhaps a reduce immune system as no sunshine on them, the virus still here. They become the next batch to fill the Covid wards. The Nightingale Hospital was built for a reason..as was the temporary morgue in a London Park

Abit trivial this but if you can get hold of any vitimin D capsules it would be a good thing to take. Recommended by one of the tv docs a few weeks ago as it good fir immune system . Mind you the weather been so good think we all getting a good dose of sunshine but a little extra all helps..

Unfortunately fish the aged and infirm are the collateral damage, the acceptable casualties, the care homes a killing ground, this was said at the outbreak of the virus, basically treat the fittest first, many questions need to be answered over the governments (mis) handling of this crisis.

Vitamin D is essential to virtually everything the body does but it’s also toxic and dangerous.

If your body needs it and you are Caucasian, a small number of minutes in the sun will give you a controlled dose far more effectively than supplements.

We aren’t very good at absorbing Vitamin D orally but it is still easy to overdose.

Vitamin D is essential to virtually everything the body does but it’s also toxic and dangerous.

If your body needs it and you are Caucasian, a small number of minutes in the sun will give you a controlled dose far more effectively than supplements.

We aren’t very good at absorbing Vitamin D orally but it is still easy to overdose.

Well thanks for the warning DD but think I'll carry on taking mine.

Lockdown fines are set to rise to £100 in England from Wednesday, May 13.
Fines will double for each repeat offence, up to a maximum of £3,200.
This doesn't make sense, just as we are easing lockdown.
You can get on a train or bus, and sometimes you are unable to social distance, but you can't meet up with friends in a park and have a picnic. Honestly, the advice is terrible.

"The news comes as the body that represents rank-and-file police officers warned the Prime Minister’s relaxed lockdown guidance still risks being a set of “loose rules that are left open to interpretation” and is difficult to implement."

Link in the Wirral Globe

The regulations were designed to confuse, the lack of clarity is a hallmark of this government, it makes the truth hard to find, and the guilty even harder, and it is easier to deflect the blame onto someone or something else.

Considering SAGE are scientists, assessors and advisors, do you think Corbyn or Starmer would have chosen differently and who or which organisation might it have been ? Any ideas ?

It makes you wonder which advice or organisation, Wales, Scotland and NI are following.

Well we wont know will we? but lets hazard a guess, would they have followed the WHO advice that other countries took? test,trace contacts,quarantine,social distancing from the off,or would they do as the government did in the early decision making days of Feb and March to decide on herd immunity, at this time they were advised that not following WHO that it would be inevitable that most would get the disease, they then abandoned this approach because it became clear that the NHS would be overwhelmed leading to hundreds and thousands of deaths, precious time lost, we must also take into account the interference of politics and political advisers, and the reluctance to look to Europe, instead run to America and take notice of an imbecile that thinks drinking dettol will do the job.

Precious time lost ? It wasn;t declared a pandemic until 11th March. Lockdown 10 days later. We had Swine Flu, that was classified as a pandemic by WHO and I don't remember any lockdown, precautionary measures or even advice. The fact it didn't take off in the same way, was not something anyone could have concluded at the onset.
We went to work and didn't really think twice about it. Handled money , coughed and sneezed, didn't wear gloves or face masks. Why were we not advised to do so ?

Moving on, Kier Starmer asked about Austria, Portugal, Norway, Denmark and why their cases were so different. What a plonker !
Austria , 9 million, Portugal 10 million, Norway 5 million , Denmark 6 million populations. Total 30 million.
LONDON 9 million , UK 67 million. with numerous cities of high density.
Poland were fining people who disobeyed the Stay at Home .. between £1000 and £5000 . Had our government put that in place, that would have caused an uproar too.

Half a million live in Liverpool, and when people want to refrain from following the guidelines, then the words 'common sense ' doesn't even register. Do we have to be told 'common sense' , or maybe that's another liberty the country would prefer to see handed over to the Government .

You know very well the difficulties of obtaining the right PPE, amazingly it's all available to buy on the internet ! Face masks, gloves, shields, the lot. Care homes have Agency Staff, could they have taken it into the place of work ? Of course they could have , different people every day.

I'm fed up with the whole lot to be honest , the moans, the groans the deliberate management of pitting the public against each other by the media, and I know exactly what will happen next. Schools... let's kick off about the possibility , yes possibility of schools going back. They have in other countries , so why not here, possibly in another 6 weeks ?

Scotland and Wales, clearly decided to make their announcements first in regard to lifting the lockdown, which they didn't ,but that's up to them. Scotland is not out of the woods yet considering the North East has quite a substantial caseload, as has North West, Midlands and London..
Plus all the figures are skewed from different countries and to try to make it into a competition is clearly bad practice and callous.

One more point. When numbers of deaths in Care Homes are reported by the media, it's interesting to note when they actually refer the deaths resulting from Covid 19 and when they actually refer the deaths resulting from Coronavirus. Two different spectrums and as Coroners atm do not have to have such deaths reported to them , then how much is a convenience of entering 'cause of death' as coronavirus ?

quote " Although coroners and the
coroner service locally are an integral component of the LRF, planning for these
situations clearly goes much wider than simply addressing coroner matters; it will
also involve the practicalities of dealing with all those deaths which are not required
in law to be reported to the coroner. In the case of COVID-19, that could be the
majority of such deaths "