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Geekus #473195 15th Feb 2011 11:55am
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Be grateful to note any historical (pre 19th Century) sources you may have relating to the management of that river, interesting to identify how long it has been controlled and also why it, of all such waterways on the Wirral required such particular attention. As discussed on a previous post even earlier maps may help, particularly in confirming questions regarding the association of the name 'Fender' with this river.


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FOr a history of the river name (and indeed all rivers in Cheshire), refer to Dodgeson's Placenames of Cheshire Part I - Page 23.

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Originally Posted by Erainn
Hi, thanks for the directions, on Google Maps that area around The Saddle Club looks fairly built-up, and look as I may I'm finding it difficult to see a river/stream course. The images posted of that bridge seem to suggest a fairly rural setting, are we sure that bridge is located as directed? Thanks again.


If I read para's directions correctly, the bridge is on the Prenton Brook, before you get to the railway. After you go under the railway & motorway, the path turns right, follows the motorway for a bit, then ends up at Little Storeton. If you then turn left & follow Roman Rd. over the golf course you end up at the Saddle club, where the red x is on the modern map. If I'm wrong, I hope para will correct me. I've added a close-up from the 1910 O.S. map.

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These photos are two separate bridges. I'm going to be walking across from Storeton through to Landican next week to get some more photos, if you want to come along, I'll show you some bits and pieces. I've been researching Early Medieval boundaries in this area for 2 years and the river courses forms a large part of this.

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You have got to be joking £100 says your wrong

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If you go on my original directions (google earth )follow Landican lane just before you get to the rail underpass as stated marks the spot.you can see in a clearing a small stream meandering to the location.I would not of said anything untill I had at least visited the mark.Which I did in practice as I recognised the painting location. The pics put up by spider are photos of my photos which took a bit of the quality away.Print the painting and the lanscape pic put them side by side.The trees the hill the gate th posts all line up.The painting was done in 2008 and sld in 2009 I was sitting on the fallen tree in the painting on Friday.My offer still stands £100 It is on Landican Lane as stated in painting

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Just to the left of Staley Wood under the M53 and then the railway bridge on Landican Lane. You could kick a ball under the railway bridge while standing on said Saxon Bridge. I think as already stated 18/19TH century. I have only called it the saxon bridge because the artist did and the thread was the Fender it is on the Prenton Brook.In truth the "Saxon" bridge might not exist you cant take a painting as a true record Was it the Tudors? who painted a hump and club foot on king Johns portrait. only found when x rayed shift that red x a couple of inches to the left and down an inch

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Crossed wires here....I'm on about the two maps above. The top one with the red x is of the bridge near Prenton (where there was a anglo-saxon water mill) and the other is of the bridge that crosses from Storeton to Landican.

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Sorry Would like to do that walk with you if poss. Chris got it spot on.What do you think? about not trusting an artist

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Deano, the red x is where the saddle club is, not the bridge. On both maps, the bridge shown near the railway & Stanley wood.
Incidentally there are several bridges like the one in the photo on Dartmoor, where they are called Clapper Bridges.


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Well I suppose they all have a bit of 'artistic licence' to make things up, so better to rely on photos or actually going along! My diary is rammed for now, but possibly 3rd or 4th March is when I'll be going. Tend to park down little Landican Lane in Storeton and walk across from there. You're welcome to join me. I'll post nearer the time to confirm dates.

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I went through the farm the other day three bullocks stood in my path in about eighteen inches of slurry .I was hoping to take a photo of the little quarry along the path but could not get through on the public footpath.There is a stream at the back of the old rocks club, prenton golf range "any idea what it might be called?"

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Originally Posted by paranoidballoon
There is a stream at the back of the old rocks club, prenton golf range "any idea what it might be called?"


According to "Waterside Wirral" it's Prenton Dell Brook


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Originally Posted by Erainn
Be grateful to note any historical (pre 19th Century) sources you may have relating to the management of that river, interesting to identify how long it has been controlled and also why it, of all such waterways on the Wirral required such particular attention. As discussed on a previous post even earlier maps may help, particularly in confirming questions regarding the association of the name 'Fender' with this river.


Not that old, but this might be of interest. (Hope it's legible!)


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Many thanks for that smile Interesting to see the relatively small expenditure on bridge repair etc, in the very regions being considered, namely Storeton, Prenton and Ford; through which this stream of mystery passes. As you rightly note the data is of course 19th Century, we look forward to any other material of previous centuries that testify to watercourse management as being the souce of the name 'Fender'.

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