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24424m #781174 28th Mar 2013 4:20pm
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Originally Posted by 24424m
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Lets have a simple quick look at morality and ethics:
Ingleborough Field bought by donations and public suscriptions an open green space and memorial park for the use of the community and as a sports field and a lasting memorial to the ultimate sacrifice V bought for a song and currently owned by tranmere fc plc, locked not available to the public, due to be sold for an alleged £5 million profit to build houses on that probably no one can afford , the money being used to protect a business from failure or debt, looks a bit bleak for tranmere on the morality side dont you think?



Not necessarily caper, as a lot of what you have said there is opinion and your own interpretation.

Incidentally, as far as I am aware, even when the fields were owned by BI, they were locked and not accessible to the general public, but that aside, how do you know what people probably could or could not afford in terms of buying a house? Do you even know what the asking price is proposed to be, because I dont?

To be honest casper, by all means throw your mud, and who knows, some of it may stick, in which case you will presumably think your presenting of opinion as fact as a job well done?

Personally, I believe that whilst there are legitimate concerns regarding the previous status of Ingleborough Road field, the benefits to be accrued from the proposed facilities to be available to the public at Woodchurch on balance outweigh these concerns, and that The Fallen can continue to be prominently respected and acknowledged as part of the proposed Ingleborough re-development.

That is just my opinion by the way casper, and I don't seek to force it on you, but maybe you would yourself consider distinguishing between your own opinion and fact, or your interpretation of fact?

Morality itself is subjective, which is why I don't seek to claim the moral high ground, but equally, as when all said and done, each of us is capable of making our own moral judgements, whatever they may be, neither, legitimately can you claim the moral high ground.


ur missing the point


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i could write an article about how hoofing i am, doesnt mean its true


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Originally Posted by derekdwc
There was a tree planted for each of the fallen soldiers I believe paid for by parents of pupils of the BI.
Can anyone tell what trees they are and if they'll be cut down, if so, would there be anything that could be made from them, benches etc with the name of a soldier put on it.


I believe the original trees were poplars, although of the trees that form the perimeter now, I think very few if any, are the originals, or indeed poplars. That said, they are mostly mature trees (i.e. planted before TRFC's ownership) & in deference to the symbolism & out of respect, they are to be retained in the plans.

Incidentally, the plans also incorporate a fully accessible memorial, with the existing plaque prominently featured, unlike at the present time, or indeed under BI's tenure of the field.

To me, there must be a fitting compromise here, maybe the naming of the roads, or even each of the dwellings named in remembrance of The Fallen. It just needs a bit of imagination in my view, for most standpoints to be satisfied, but then there will always be the intransigent I guess!


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Lets not get carried away with ourselves 24, some of what I said is opinion ie the difficulty in purchasing property the rest about the field is fact,as regards tranmere providing the facility at Woodchurch well let me see, ref the local rags tranmere is to pay the council £1 million for removing the covenant which the council is going to GIVE back to tranmere for the Woodchurch,tranmere has agreed to pay the upkeep of some of the facilities at Woodchurch(which they will have priority use of )so the accrued benefits at Woodchurch dont really come from tranmere do they? or are you attempting to mislead,opinion or fact? oh what tangled webs we weave.

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Can someone tell me what money Mansell have agreed to donate to the Woodchurch community as part of the St Benedicts school build. Is the money that was promised to the community as part of this build being used in the first stage of this Tranmere proposal?

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