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You can yes, beauty of the internet. But your post did nothing except maybe add to your overall post score. Oh, and go off topic somewhat.

Your post and opinion still offend me, as obviously you find Brain Damage amusing enough to use it as an insult. A similar vain to using the term "Gay" as an insult, we live in a modern age now where differences are to be accepted and honored, not jeered and made fun of. Hopefully you will never have to endure the emotional strains and struggles of having to care for a Brain Damaged family member.

I'd be ashamed...

Thanks for your pm, I will respond to it

The parts underlined and in bold are the parts that in my opinion are offensive and aggressive.

Ok, let's see what marks opinion is on it. Have a good day

I'm not reporting you to Mark so he'll have no reason to get involved.

show me evidence from the circus is question that would lead to a conviction of animal cruelty. From what I've seen with my own eyes, the living conditions are above regulation, the animals health is top notch, they show no signs of distress, the training methods in use are positive reinforcement, you can't, and neither can ADI or CAPS, but that doesn't stop them from trying to present what "evidence" they have gathered as animal cruelty. I can accept that some people have the opinion that these practices are cruel, but my opinion and the scientific fact is that they aren't. But the ADI and CAPS try to present their opinion of animal cruelty as fact which it isn't, its opinion. But a Placard at a protest saying "This circus operates above the regulation standards set by DEFRA and has been audited numerous times by vets, who say the animals are in good health but I still think its cruel" doesn't have the same effect does it.


Yes, DEFRA does want to ban introduced, based on their opinion or based on that is what they think the majority of the population wants, I dont know. but the government can't find any scientific evidence to support a ban.

This is all opinion.

But in the same proposed bill they also say;
This is Fact


I don't recall to ever claim to be an expert on the issue, and if I did I retract it, I was a Zoo Keeper, a professional in the field of keeping wild animals in captivity but not an expert.


No need to, The queen seems to be doing that nicely all by herself Click here

Stereotypical -- Quote waddi " Abnormal Behaviours which can be seen in the majority of all captive animals. Do any of your animal friends own horses? Maybe they have noticed their horses whinnying loudly and randomly, kicking the stable door, eating and chewing their bridles? All stereotypical actions of captive animals, so therefore just as cruel to own a Horse as it is to own a Tiger/Lion !!"

So at least you admit seeing the stereotypical behaviour .As to that sort of behaviour in 'pet' animals , Id also be concerned about that , something would not be right with the conditions and or environment and Id not personally find it acceptable and would make criticisms of it . Stress is stress whoever the animal belongs to . Private owners have no more right to inflict it than a circus or zoo as I see it .

As for the Queens speech. heres a Cameron quote.

“While the recent Queen’s Speech did not contain the Government’s proposed Wild Animals in Circuses Bill, let me reassure you that it remains our position that the use of wild animal acts in travelling circuses is an outdated practice and that we will introduce a ban as soon as Parliamentary time allows”.


Think Ive said all I want to say on this subject now. Im out as they say in Dragons den. An interesting discussion, thanks to all participants.We'll always have clashes on here because we're all different, but its great to share opinions and try and convert each other with only virtual blood up the walls .

If you read the reason why the ban was omitted, you may understand a bit better, the Queen hasn't omitted anything, it was omitted on advice from the PM's advisor, as being peripheral to the main government business, as to your argument about the dolphins, two wrongs don't make a right.

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I never said that.



So a high Priority then? Must be really needed.

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The protesters have their say.

The protesters always have their say, whether it factual or not, that's the problem.

Apologies Waddi, it was of course Kreki . Slip of the brain!