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Hope hes worth it,they must be hardup is all I can say,my old mum used to say a good name is everything, dont let yourself down,well Oldham have let themselves down and will no doubt disappoint a lot of their supporters and sponsors, I am sure there are lots of decent lads looking for a chance.
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Doh, there are none so blind as those that do not wish to see, he is that guilty, tried and found guilty by the British justice system, as much as he and his silly little girlfriend and supporters deny it, nothing can change that.
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I can think of two professional footballers who killed people while drunk driving. Both did time but were back playing league football shortly after their release from prison, presumably without public campaigns to prevent them signing for anybody. Does this mean that rape is more serious than manslaughter ?
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Maybe- the whole 'Footballer/ WAG culture' needs addressing??
For every 'innocent' who has been violated there are a culture of young ladies willing to be violated/ roasted etc in exchange for the hope of being a permanent fixture, in Footballers lives.
Footballers- usually rich, young, fit- some are good-looking. Get treated like Gods wherever they go, girls/ women throwing themselves at them (see above)
I can see how problems are created here- even Human Beings (females) are (possibly) viewed as entitlements by these over-paid footballers.
Their Logic is not Ours.
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Was it Peter Crouch who was asked what he would have been if not a footballer --his reply "a virgin"
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I can think of two professional footballers who killed people while drunk driving. Both did time but were back playing league football shortly after their release from prison, presumably without public campaigns to prevent them signing for anybody. Does this mean that rape is more serious than manslaughter ?
Bob. What that means is; the public were obviously not so incensed and although the two you quote, went out and got drunk prior to driving, their intentions were not to kill. Not premeditated. Whereas Evans was pre-meditating his conquest. Big difference, and rape, I'm sure could feel like manslaughter to the violated individual, Bob.
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Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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I'm not 100% certain but from what I've read, those who did kill while drunk driving served their entire sentences and were profoundly sorry for what they did.
Evans has done neither.
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if he was that guilty he would be hiding under a rock but no he's right back out there. Like Gary Glitter?
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My problem is, that do we deny everybody leaving prison the right to work again.There has been far too much publicity about this man and he would have been far better to stop all the rants of his supporters,waited to see the outcome of his appeal (if its allowed) and then start to re build his life.
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My problem is, that do we deny everybody leaving prison the right to work again. Nobody is denying him the right to work though. Just not on the pitch. If he wants to stay in football I'm sure Oldham's toilets need cleaning. His father in law promised him a job, so he can take that: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-footballer-job-attempt-play-fails.htmlWhen you're in a position of authority or trust or high regard, you lose any rights you had to return to that position once convicted. Would you be happy if a doctor, nurse, or teacher struck off was allowed to return to work, even if they'd served their sentence? How about the BBC, shall we give Rolf Harris a TV programme when he gets back out? Gary Glitter and Lost Prophets music are now airbrushed from history and radio airplay.
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Ched Evans deal is off. Oldham Athletic board member have bowed to enormous pressure from sponsors.
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Yep, good news, although not sure about the threats claim though. But its nothing worse than what the girl has received from Evans's supporters. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30727729
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Witch hunt now, people jumping on the bandwagon.
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I believe his prospective father in law offered to pay or make up any losses in sponsorship money and contribute toward his wages, he must be hard up for a son in law, if it was my kid the advice would have been run a mile give him a wide berth, he has no respect for you nor for that matter anyone else especially his victim.
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The 26-year-old also condemned the online abuse of his victim, continued to maintain his innocence in the face of his rape conviction and also apologised about what he called "the effects" of the events in a North Wales hotel room which led to his arrest. Oldham's decision to pull out of the deal was welcomed by campaigners against Evans's return to football and Prime Minister David Cameron said he would have some "real concerns" about taking his children to watch a football match if a convicted rapist was playing. In his statement Evans said: "It is with great sadness that today I have withdrawn from talks with Oldham Athletic. "I would like to thank the club, and those who have supported me in my lawful quest to find work. I apologise to the club's supporters, sponsors and all those affected by the last 72 hours. "Sadly the 'mob rule' tactics employed by the more radical elements of our society and the constant media reporting, has had the desired influence on some sponsors and the club would face significant financial pressure if I joined them. "The most significant issue for me was that owing to the threat of funding opportunities being withdrawn which may jeopardise the building of Oldham's new stand it would mean that workers would lose their jobs and others would be put at risk - that would simply not be fair." Evans went on: "Upon legal advice, I chose not to discuss the events in question. My silence has been misinterpreted as arrogance and I would like to state that this could not be further from the truth. "I do remain limited at present by what I can say due to the ongoing application to the Criminal Cases Review Commission and whilst I continue to maintain my innocence, I wish to make it clear that I wholeheartedly apologise for the effect that that night in Rhyl has had on many people, especially the woman concerned. "Finally, it has been claimed that those using social media in an abusive and vindictive way towards this woman are supporters of mine. I wish to make it clear that these people are not my supporters and I condemn their actions entirely and will continue to do so."Evans has served half of a five-year sentence for raping a 19-year-old woman in a hotel room in Rhyl in 2011, and remains on licence. Since his conviction, his victim, who has a legal right to anonymity for life, has moved home five times as online trolls repeatedly tracked her down and revealed her new identity. One Oldham board member said the deal had been called off partly due to threats to staff and their families, although Greater Manchester Police said they were not aware of any threats to anyone connected to the club. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-2901785/FA-urged-intervene-Evans.html#ixzz3OGHUQ5OK Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
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