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On some 19th century maps (OS 6" 1st edition) its not marked as a pub but is marked as a Blacksmiths, no idea whether this was a mistake in the early surveys.

Stats on ice are often greatly obfuscated eg using area not volume, segregating sea ice and land ice etc, it makes it difficult to form an opinion at to what is exaggeration or misleading.

There are additional complex factors such as the land bounce-back when sea levels rise, the partial flotation reduces pressure.

There is also very little information on the effects of tectonic movement on sea level.

I know the predictions are struggling but of course air pressure, air movement, salt movement and gravitational changes of other bodies etc all affect the distribution of water and its only relatively recently we have figures that could truly be called mean sea levels.

I think it fascinating that we have huge tidal range differences within the UK, Bristol and Liverpool are huge, Mull of Kintyre is tiny. From a basic map the reasons are not obvious and over time you'd expect scouring/deposition to have levelled depth and hence ranges.

I have just read some further posts. Absolute disgrace to demolish such a fine redbrick building. There was a patio at the rear which looked across to North Wales. Had a small Orchard and what was called the Dell on the side with a little cave, fond memories but, as mentioned criminal to knock it down. I drove down Eleanor Road some years ago to see it again, failed to locate as I was unaware it was no longer standing.

I've often said the if you force targets on people you end up with liars and cheats, this was my suspicion in the Lucy Letby "baby murderer" case. Here was a hospital department failing badly on targets.

Lucy was convicted without any hard evidence, primarily on statistics and opinion, here are some points to consider ....


A number of senior statisticians have stated that the way the statistics were used and interpreted was completely unsafe.

Her own boss admitted that she had made misleading statements.

The medical expert has changed his mind about three of the cases and now believes they were not murder.

The systems used to show when she was on the ward have been blown apart as totally unreliable data.

A lot of accusations happened retrospectively after considerable periods of time, it took over a year for this supposed information of murder to filter up the management chain.

The department's consultants will be very aware that some of the deaths could end their careers.

There was a huge trial by media with a heavy bias towards her being guilty.

To me it smells of a scapegoat scenario for a failing department or plain bad luck. She might be guilty, she might not, but she is innocent until proven guilty and there is no credible evidence that she is guilty. There undoubtedly has been some unsafe convictions against her.

Hi,
Im desperately seeking any images of victoria road, new brighton from the late 60 - early 70s.
Especially the empress club if possible.
This was a special place for my father and late mother. Id lovd to find some images for him if possible.
Many thanks in advance,
Michelle.

Hi, i know this is a super old thread, but im searching for puctures of the Empress club for my dad.
Cant find sny anywhere snd none of the lunks on theses old threads work. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Im looking for any pictures of the Empress Club in New Brighton, and come across thrmis thread.
I cant seem to view the images for some reason, could someone help or share any images, please.
Many Thanks.

The Echo has done an updated version of that article 4 years later https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/tiny-house-between-two-alleyways-30529133